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αὐθέντης in Alexander Rhetor 2.1.6 and 2.6.3 | Women in the Church Women in the Church Restoring order and releasing into ministry Menu Skip to content Home Vision Restoring order Releasing into ministry Contact Research αὐθεντεω αὐθεντέω resources αὐθεντέω: Lexicons, commentaries, extracts The Philodemus fragment (αὐθεντ[οῦ]σιν) αὐθέντης in Alexander Rhetor 2.1.6 and 2.6.3 Κεφαλή οὐδέ 1 Timothy 2 vv 11-15 Testimonies αὐθέντης in Alexander Rhetor 2.1.6 and 2.6.3 The text is in Leonardi Spengel’s hodgepodge Rhetores Graeci (Lipsiae: Teubneri 1856), in installment 18, which is entitled ΕΚ ΤΩΝ ΑΛΕΧΑΝΔΡΟΥ, that is, ‘From the [works] of Alexander’, and both occurrences of the word αὐθέντης occur in the first section, on page 2 at lines 1 and 6: TRANSLATION NOTES: Ὁ Ἀλέξανδρός φησιν, ὡς δύο ὄντων τῶν ἀνωτάτω προβλημάτων, θέσεώς τε καὶ ὑποθέσεως, Alexander says: As there are two over-arching matters, a θέσις (undefined question) and a ὑπόθεσις (defined question), καὶ τῆς μὲν θέσεως ζητήσεως οὔσης καθολικῆς ἄνευ προσώπου ὡρισμένου, and the former stuff a unstipulated discussion without a specified aspect, ὑποθέσεως δὲ ζητήσεως ἐπὶ μέρους ἐν ὡρισμένοις προσώποις, but the latter stuff a discussion with specified aspects in part, τρεῖς αἱ διαφοραὶ κατὰ τὴν φύσιν· there are three natural distinctions to be made.  ζητοῦσι γὰρ ἅπαντες περὶ τῶν ἤδη γεγονότων ἢ περὶ τῶν μελλόντων ἔσεσθαι ἢ περὶ τῶν ὄντων· For all are seeking for the things that have once been, and the things that are well-nigh to be, and the things that are; οὐκοῦν τῶν πολιτικῶν λόγων τρεῖς εἰσιν ὑποθέσεις, ἐγκώμιον, συμβουλή, δίκη. Accordingly, there are three specific forms of political speeches: the eulogy/panegyric, the discussion/deliberation, and the court-case/judgement. διαφέρουσι δ’ αὗται ἀλλήλων τοῖς χρόνοις, τοῖς πράγμασι, τοῖς τέλεσι, τοῖς ἀκροαταῖς, ἐφ’ ὧν οἱ λόγοι γίγνονται. But these differ from one flipside in times, in events, in goals, [and] in the hearers, upon whom the speeches come. τοῖς μὲν δὴ χρόνοις διαφέρουσιν, ὅτι αἱ μέν εἰσιν αἱ δίκαι [καὶ] περὶ τῶν ἤδη γεγονότων, αἱ δὲ συμβουλαὶ περὶ τῶν μελλόντων, οἱ δὲ ἔπαινοι περὶ τῶν ὄντων καὶ τῶν ἐσομένων· Now they differ in respect of time, considering the judgements snooping things which have once happened, whereas the deliberations snooping things which are well-nigh to be, and the eulogies snooping the things which are and which will be. ἐπαινοῦμεν γὰρ οὐ μόνον εἴ τίς ἐστιν ἀγαθός, ἀλλὰ καὶ [εἰ] προσδοκῶντες ἔσεσθαι. For we praise, not only if someone is good, but moreover if we are expecting that they will be. τῇ δὲ τῶν χρόνων διαφορᾷ ἕπεται καὶ ἡ τῶν πραγμάτων· Also, the difference with respect to events is in wind-down with the difference in respect to time. τὰ μὲν γὰρ γέγονε πράγματα, τὰ δὲ μέλλει, τὰ δ’ ἐνέστηκεν. For some events have taken place, others will in future, others are underway. ἔτι δ’ ἔστι τοῦ μὲν ἐγκωμίου ἔπαινος καὶ ψόγος, τῆς δὲ δίκης ἀπολογία καὶ κατηγορία, τῆς δὲ συμβουλῆς προτροπὴ καὶ ἀποτροπή. But still [with regard to] the public speech, there is [both] praise and censure, [with regard to] judgement (or lawsuit) there is defence and accusation/prosecution, [with regard to] deliberation there is exhortation [persuasion] and dissuasion. τοῖς δὲ ἀκροαταῖς, ὅτι ἐν μὲν ταῖς συμβουλαῖς αὐθένται εἰσὶν οἱ ἀκροώμενοι· And [they differ] with respect to the listeners, considering in deliberations the ones who hear are [also] the ones who speak and act [having autonomy so to do]. βουλεύονται γάρ, τί αὐτοῖς πρακτέον ἐκείνοις καὶ τί μὴ πρακτέον· For they deliberate upon what whoopee is to be taken, and what is not to be taken by them, themselves. ἐν ταῖς δὲ δίκαις οἱ κριταὶ ὡς περὶ ἰδίων σκεπτόμενοι, εἰ πέπρακται τὰ ὑπ’ ἄλλων γενόμενα, κρίνουσιν, ἢ εἰ δικαίως ἢ οὔ· In the magistrate cases, the judges, as concerning private matters, and considering carefully, judge as to whether the things that have been washed-up by others have in fact occurred, or [sc. if indeed they have] as to whether (they have been committed) justly or not. τὸ δὲ τῶν ἐγκωμίων εἶδος οὔτε αὐθέντας ἔχει οὔτε κριτάς, ἀλλὰ μόνον ἀκροατάς, ὅθεν καὶ ἐπιδεικτικὸν τὸ τοιοῦτον κέκληται. But the form of eulogies has neither doers/agents/actors nor judges/deciders but only listeners, which is why such a form is moreover tabbed epideictic (for the exhibit of rhetorical or oratorical skill).   Andrew         Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email write will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Search Recent Posts “For I am not ashamed…..” August 14, 2015 Origen on 1 Corinthians 14.33-35 (part 1: the Montanists) March 16, 2015 Dear friends, seek truth July 27, 2014 Planet charade (ἐκ πλάνῃ in 1 Thessalonians 2 v 3) March 27, 2014 Recent CommentsPeter on Contactmargaret Beaird on Restoring orderAndrew Chapman on Dear friends, seek truthDavid Harrison on Dear friends, seek truthArchives August 2015 March 2015 July 2014 March 2014 February 2014 January 2014 Categories Research Uncategorized Women's ministry Meta Log in Entries RSS Comments RSS WordPress.org Enabled by WordPress | Theme: Expound by Konstantin Kovshenin